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		<title>By: Bonnie Wren</title>
		<link>http://www.bonniewren.com/2005/will-nutriferon-save-you-from-the-bird-flu.htm/comment-page-2#comment-164890</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Wren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynne, please forgive the delayed response. I was waiting for a response from Dr. Moscona and got caught up in other concerns.  

The document you cite above contains the following quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

The third study is really astounding. Shaklee teamed with Dr. Ann Moscona of Cornell, one of the nation&#039;s leading virologists. The result of that research was an entirely new technique,  the Human Airway Epithelial model, for studying the activity of viruses. Phase II of the study involved using that model to study the impact of Nutriferon on viral activity. &lt;strong&gt;The stunning result was that Nutriferon was found to be a potent up-regulator of Natural Killer Cells,&lt;/strong&gt; which are specific white blood cells that target tumor cells and cells infected by pathogens like viruses. What a finding in the time of H1N1 flu and continued concern about cancer.&quot; 

&lt;em&gt;(emphasis is Bonnie&#039;s)&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I found several Shaklee sites quoting this same paragraph.

I searched for research by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weillcornell.org/amoscona/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr. Ann Moscona&lt;/a&gt;&#8212; who is definitely a prominent virologist, featured on TV news shows and in medical journals.  I specifically looked for research of hers containing the phrase &quot;Human Airway Epithelial Model&quot; but couldn&#039;t find anything (except Shaklee sites citing that term).

I then searched for research by Dr. Moscona containing the word &quot;Nutriferon&quot; &#8212; but again, I found nothing.

In searching for &quot;interferon&quot; and &quot;Shaklee&quot; I did find an article by Dr. Moscona entitled: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/360/10/953.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Transmission of Oseltamivir-Resistant Influenza&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. It was published in the New England Journal of Medicine 9 March 2009. 

The name &quot;Shaklee&quot; is used once in the article, at the end in a note describing Dr. Moscona&#039;s potential conflicts of interest regarding the article. The note states that she serves on advisory boards and receives consulting and lecture fees from various pharmaceutical companies, as well as grant support from Shaklee and NexBio.  (Nothing wrong with that.)

Interferon is mentioned once in the article, in this sentence:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Other promising antiviral avenues under investigation&lt;/strong&gt; include signal transduction inhibitors, &lt;strong&gt;interferon inducers,&lt;/strong&gt; and molecules targeting the interaction between the influenza NS1A protein and the 30-kD subunit of cleavage and polyadenylation specificity factor.&quot; &lt;strong&gt;(emphasis is Bonnie&#039;s)&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hardly the glowing endorsement trumpeted in the Word document. 

There many be another research study out there that I couldn&#039;t find, something with the results of that investigation of &quot;other promising antiviral avenues&quot;, but until somebody points it out to me I&#039;ll have to assume this was the study referred to in the Word document.

But just in case, I emailed Dr. Moscona on September 12, 2009, to ask if the quote from the Word document was an accurate summary of her research.  As of today, I&#039;ve gotten no response.

My opinion: unless someone can find the original research stating that Nutriferon really was &quot;found to be a potent up-regulator of Natural Killer Cells&quot;, I&#039;ll have to believe that the statements in the Word document are inaccurate and misleading, meant to sell more Nutriferon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne, please forgive the delayed response. I was waiting for a response from Dr. Moscona and got caught up in other concerns.  </p>
<p>The document you cite above contains the following quote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The third study is really astounding. Shaklee teamed with Dr. Ann Moscona of Cornell, one of the nation&#8217;s leading virologists. The result of that research was an entirely new technique,  the Human Airway Epithelial model, for studying the activity of viruses. Phase II of the study involved using that model to study the impact of Nutriferon on viral activity. <strong>The stunning result was that Nutriferon was found to be a potent up-regulator of Natural Killer Cells,</strong> which are specific white blood cells that target tumor cells and cells infected by pathogens like viruses. What a finding in the time of H1N1 flu and continued concern about cancer.&#8221; </p>
<p><em>(emphasis is Bonnie&#8217;s)</em></p>
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<p>I found several Shaklee sites quoting this same paragraph.</p>
<p>I searched for research by <a href="http://www.weillcornell.org/amoscona/" rel="nofollow">Dr. Ann Moscona</a>&#8212; who is definitely a prominent virologist, featured on TV news shows and in medical journals.  I specifically looked for research of hers containing the phrase &#8220;Human Airway Epithelial Model&#8221; but couldn&#8217;t find anything (except Shaklee sites citing that term).</p>
<p>I then searched for research by Dr. Moscona containing the word &#8220;Nutriferon&#8221; &#8212; but again, I found nothing.</p>
<p>In searching for &#8220;interferon&#8221; and &#8220;Shaklee&#8221; I did find an article by Dr. Moscona entitled: &#8220;<a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/360/10/953.pdf" rel="nofollow">Global Transmission of Oseltamivir-Resistant Influenza</a>&#8220;. It was published in the New England Journal of Medicine 9 March 2009. </p>
<p>The name &#8220;Shaklee&#8221; is used once in the article, at the end in a note describing Dr. Moscona&#8217;s potential conflicts of interest regarding the article. The note states that she serves on advisory boards and receives consulting and lecture fees from various pharmaceutical companies, as well as grant support from Shaklee and NexBio.  (Nothing wrong with that.)</p>
<p>Interferon is mentioned once in the article, in this sentence:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><strong>&#8220;Other promising antiviral avenues under investigation</strong> include signal transduction inhibitors, <strong>interferon inducers,</strong> and molecules targeting the interaction between the influenza NS1A protein and the 30-kD subunit of cleavage and polyadenylation specificity factor.&#8221; <strong>(emphasis is Bonnie&#8217;s)</strong>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Hardly the glowing endorsement trumpeted in the Word document. </p>
<p>There many be another research study out there that I couldn&#8217;t find, something with the results of that investigation of &#8220;other promising antiviral avenues&#8221;, but until somebody points it out to me I&#8217;ll have to assume this was the study referred to in the Word document.</p>
<p>But just in case, I emailed Dr. Moscona on September 12, 2009, to ask if the quote from the Word document was an accurate summary of her research.  As of today, I&#8217;ve gotten no response.</p>
<p>My opinion: unless someone can find the original research stating that Nutriferon really was &#8220;found to be a potent up-regulator of Natural Killer Cells&#8221;, I&#8217;ll have to believe that the statements in the Word document are inaccurate and misleading, meant to sell more Nutriferon.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://www.bonniewren.com/2005/will-nutriferon-save-you-from-the-bird-flu.htm/comment-page-2#comment-151915</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bonnie,

Wow! What an experience! I stumbled upon your site while Binging Dr. Kojima and have read through most of the posts here which is something I would normally never have the time to do but my boys and husband are on a Daddy/son campout so it&#039;s just me and the computer tonight. 

I do have one little one with me (my sweet little baby boy) that must know that Daddy and brothers are gone because he has awakened three times since I&#039;ve been reading these posts so I&#039;ll try to get this in before he calls out for me again.

I agree with you that the clinicals and studies referred to should speak directly to and about the purpose stated on the bottle. I mean, what does menstration have to do with boosting the immune system?

Well, anyway, here is something that a friend of mine sent to me about a month ago. It was from someone who attended Shaklee&#039;s annual conference. It doesn&#039;t say much but you seem to be able to follow up on and properly search out information on all the things people have posted on here. So if you are able to find anything further on the study mentioned in the link my friend sent me, I&#039;d like to see it.

The study I am referring to is the third one mentioned by the sender of the original email. It has to do with the Nutriferon and viral activity. 

Like I said, it doesn&#039;t say much. It&#039;s only a paragraph, but if you are able to find out more about the study and what was actually found or proven, then I sure would like to see it.

I&#039;m not very computer savvy. I&#039;m lucky to get into my email everyday so I don&#039;t know if I am doing this properly but here&#039;s the link I was given:

http://www.secure-session.com/files/4/4932/1500057488/BCB4282A41/i/3%20study%20summary.doc

If that doesn&#039;t work, then I guess I could forward you the email I received with the link in it. I just copied the address of the page that comes up after clicking on the link given to me in the email from my friend.

Thanks for all you&#039;ve done on this topic thus far. You&#039;re a trooper!
Lynne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bonnie,</p>
<p>Wow! What an experience! I stumbled upon your site while Binging Dr. Kojima and have read through most of the posts here which is something I would normally never have the time to do but my boys and husband are on a Daddy/son campout so it&#8217;s just me and the computer tonight. </p>
<p>I do have one little one with me (my sweet little baby boy) that must know that Daddy and brothers are gone because he has awakened three times since I&#8217;ve been reading these posts so I&#8217;ll try to get this in before he calls out for me again.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the clinicals and studies referred to should speak directly to and about the purpose stated on the bottle. I mean, what does menstration have to do with boosting the immune system?</p>
<p>Well, anyway, here is something that a friend of mine sent to me about a month ago. It was from someone who attended Shaklee&#8217;s annual conference. It doesn&#8217;t say much but you seem to be able to follow up on and properly search out information on all the things people have posted on here. So if you are able to find anything further on the study mentioned in the link my friend sent me, I&#8217;d like to see it.</p>
<p>The study I am referring to is the third one mentioned by the sender of the original email. It has to do with the Nutriferon and viral activity. </p>
<p>Like I said, it doesn&#8217;t say much. It&#8217;s only a paragraph, but if you are able to find out more about the study and what was actually found or proven, then I sure would like to see it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very computer savvy. I&#8217;m lucky to get into my email everyday so I don&#8217;t know if I am doing this properly but here&#8217;s the link I was given:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.secure-session.com/files/4/4932/1500057488/BCB4282A41/i/3%20study%20summary.doc" rel="nofollow">http://www.secure-session.com/files/4/4932/1500057488/BCB4282A41/i/3%20study%20summary.doc</a></p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work, then I guess I could forward you the email I received with the link in it. I just copied the address of the page that comes up after clicking on the link given to me in the email from my friend.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you&#8217;ve done on this topic thus far. You&#8217;re a trooper!<br />
Lynne</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Coker</title>
		<link>http://www.bonniewren.com/2005/will-nutriferon-save-you-from-the-bird-flu.htm/comment-page-2#comment-151882</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The women and men who are Hepatitis C  and cancer survivors after having taken Shaklee Nutrition and Nutriferon would be happy to share their own life experiences.  If you have not used these products, I would be careful with the words.  How much is your life worth if M.D. Anderson dismisses you to go home and prepare for your funeral.  $50 a bottle for Nutriferon is cheap compared to the funerals of several of my customers who are still living and breathing in good health. My health was restored 25 years ago due to Shaklee Nutrition.  I owe my life and my health to Shaklee. Thousands can say that in all honesty but we cannot say that the products will cure anything.  Dr. Shaklee just said take the nutrition and the body will use it to restore healthy cells.  There is a new study recently published that Nutriferon will raise killer cells in the body that will attack and destroy viruses.  Good enough for me and thousands of very happy and healthy Shaklee distributors.
I feel very bad for those who do not have Shaklee in their lives, particularly those like myself in their 70&#039;s and up who have to depend on the medical profession and take drugs.  I am drug free, thankfully!  And still going strong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The women and men who are Hepatitis C  and cancer survivors after having taken Shaklee Nutrition and Nutriferon would be happy to share their own life experiences.  If you have not used these products, I would be careful with the words.  How much is your life worth if M.D. Anderson dismisses you to go home and prepare for your funeral.  $50 a bottle for Nutriferon is cheap compared to the funerals of several of my customers who are still living and breathing in good health. My health was restored 25 years ago due to Shaklee Nutrition.  I owe my life and my health to Shaklee. Thousands can say that in all honesty but we cannot say that the products will cure anything.  Dr. Shaklee just said take the nutrition and the body will use it to restore healthy cells.  There is a new study recently published that Nutriferon will raise killer cells in the body that will attack and destroy viruses.  Good enough for me and thousands of very happy and healthy Shaklee distributors.<br />
I feel very bad for those who do not have Shaklee in their lives, particularly those like myself in their 70&#8217;s and up who have to depend on the medical profession and take drugs.  I am drug free, thankfully!  And still going strong!</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha Malon</title>
		<link>http://www.bonniewren.com/2005/will-nutriferon-save-you-from-the-bird-flu.htm/comment-page-2#comment-148915</link>
		<dc:creator>Marsha Malon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I&#039;ve been jogging for over 5 years now, and my immune system is so strong. My husband and family can get a terrible flu, and I&#039;m still feeling okay! I haven&#039;t have a cold in years and I feel great!
All I need is some good shoes for about $50 a year (that&#039;s a lot cheaper than Nutriferon).
A friend was trying to get me involved on Shaklee, and doing my research I came into this site.
I&#039;m just glad she can&#039;t brainwash me with the idea that some miracle pill is going to make me feel better!!!!!
I wish the best for everybody!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I&#8217;ve been jogging for over 5 years now, and my immune system is so strong. My husband and family can get a terrible flu, and I&#8217;m still feeling okay! I haven&#8217;t have a cold in years and I feel great!<br />
All I need is some good shoes for about $50 a year (that&#8217;s a lot cheaper than Nutriferon).<br />
A friend was trying to get me involved on Shaklee, and doing my research I came into this site.<br />
I&#8217;m just glad she can&#8217;t brainwash me with the idea that some miracle pill is going to make me feel better!!!!!<br />
I wish the best for everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.bonniewren.com/2005/will-nutriferon-save-you-from-the-bird-flu.htm/comment-page-2#comment-136700</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobb Dee, could you provide a link for the statement that &quot;Shaklee exceeds being the cadillac of the supplement industry&quot;?  

When I search the FDA site for the term &quot;Shaklee&quot;, I get &lt;a href=&quot;http://google2.fda.gov/search?output=xml_no_dtd&amp;lr=&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA&amp;client=FDA&amp;site=FDA&amp;getfields=*&amp;as_q=shaklee+&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;approximately 475 hits&lt;/a&gt;, but only &lt;a href=&quot;http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=shaklee+cadillac&amp;btnG=Search&amp;entqr=0&amp;getfields=*&amp;sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;lr=&amp;client=FDA&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search&amp;ud=1&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two containing the term &quot;Cadillac&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, and those concern a company called &quot;Cadillac Plastic.&quot;

Some of the hits include correspondence in which the FDA tells Shaklee representatives that if Shaklee continues to make &quot;implied disease claims&quot; regarding Shaklee supplements, then Shaklee supplements will be subject to regulation under the drug provisions of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://google2.fda.gov/search?output=xml_no_dtd&amp;lr=&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA&amp;client=FDA&amp;site=FDA&amp;getfields=*&amp;as_q=Jack+Hegenauer+&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An example of this kind of correspondence is here&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to repeat that I regularly consume supplements like Vitamins C and B and Glucosamine, etc., but they are inexpensive supplements found in any pharmacy. 

I find it difficult, however, to swallow some of the unproven claims companies like Shaklee make in order to sell very expensive supplements that can only be purchased through their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/shaklee.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MLM company&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not attacking the sincere people who believe what Shaklee has told them. Instead, I criticize zealots like the woman who came to my site with the bogus claim that Shaklee could protect her customers from the Bird Flu. 

Right now she&#039;s probably telling her friends and neighbors that her expensive vitamins will protect them from the Swine Flu, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobb Dee, could you provide a link for the statement that &#8220;Shaklee exceeds being the cadillac of the supplement industry&#8221;?  </p>
<p>When I search the FDA site for the term &#8220;Shaklee&#8221;, I get <a href="http://google2.fda.gov/search?output=xml_no_dtd&amp;lr=&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA&amp;client=FDA&amp;site=FDA&amp;getfields=*&amp;as_q=shaklee+&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search" rel="nofollow">approximately 475 hits</a>, but only <a href="http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=shaklee+cadillac&amp;btnG=Search&amp;entqr=0&amp;getfields=*&amp;sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&amp;output=xml_no_dtd&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;lr=&amp;client=FDA&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search&amp;ud=1&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA" rel="nofollow">two containing the term &#8220;Cadillac&#8221;</a>, and those concern a company called &#8220;Cadillac Plastic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of the hits include correspondence in which the FDA tells Shaklee representatives that if Shaklee continues to make &#8220;implied disease claims&#8221; regarding Shaklee supplements, then Shaklee supplements will be subject to regulation under the drug provisions of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.  <a href="http://google2.fda.gov/search?output=xml_no_dtd&amp;lr=&amp;proxystylesheet=FDA&amp;client=FDA&amp;site=FDA&amp;getfields=*&amp;as_q=Jack+Hegenauer+&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;num=10&amp;as=Search" rel="nofollow">An example of this kind of correspondence is here</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to repeat that I regularly consume supplements like Vitamins C and B and Glucosamine, etc., but they are inexpensive supplements found in any pharmacy. </p>
<p>I find it difficult, however, to swallow some of the unproven claims companies like Shaklee make in order to sell very expensive supplements that can only be purchased through their <a href="http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/shaklee.htm" rel="nofollow">MLM company</a>.</p>
<p>I am not attacking the sincere people who believe what Shaklee has told them. Instead, I criticize zealots like the woman who came to my site with the bogus claim that Shaklee could protect her customers from the Bird Flu. </p>
<p>Right now she&#8217;s probably telling her friends and neighbors that her expensive vitamins will protect them from the Swine Flu, too.</p>
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